[Oledb-dev] My health and a new list

[Arvo]

Hello Shachar,

>>Much better solution for most users would be web forum
:::
>>For example take a look at eMule forum (http://forum.emule-project.net/)
:::
> Can you point to an actual topic containing patches?

http://forum.emule-project.net/index.php?showforum=4

Unfortunately for registered users only. Well, this is somewhat different community, anonymous access could generate too heavy and/or unwanted traffic and so on.


> The long and the short of it is this. Mailing lists is the way
> development takes place on almost any open source project you would care
> to point out. 

I know.

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> In short, I don't think it is the right method to centralize development efforts for PgOleDb, at
> least in this time.

I have nothing against *developing* pgoledb using mailing lists. What I wanted to say is that using mailing lists we do not get attention of pgoledb users, from which some can actually help developing.


> I do believe that the reason you do think that mailing lists are
> inapropriate is because you are using a mail client that does not
> support good filtering and threading of messages. A good mail client
> (read - any mail client which isn't a web-client or made by Microsoft)
> will give you all you need in order to read mailing list traffic as
> easilly, if not easier, than  a web forum.

I'm using good mail client, changed to it especially for current list :)

> Considering the rather difficult path that a developer has to pass in
> order to perform PgOleDb development (develpoment environment, support
> libraries, CVS), I don't think requiring a subscription is such a high
> additional price to pay.

Not for developer, who *needs* oledb driver for postgres; but enough high entry barrier for user, who doesn't need this driver, but could need it if it was complete.

Like me - I don't need this driver, but it may become needed in some time. Sad reality - nobody [our customers] is interested in using postgesql server, not even talking about financing development to support that.

I'm contradicting myself somehow - but actually my joining to oledb-devel list was almost accidental. Long story and not topic related.

Can you estimate, how many people are using pgoledb at all? 10, 100, 1000?

>>Of course, someone needs to administer such forum; it needs hosted somewhere and so on. I don't know, does pgfoundry host forums or not. I could apply for administering, if seriously needed.
>>
> One place I am willing to concede that a forum may do good is for user
> support. If you send me your pgfoundry user name, i'll gladly open a
> forum for user support and appoint you high chief in charge of it :-).

Thanks :) , but look below (and I cannot give user support, because I'm not using pgoledb).

> I think the best solution is to have a mailing list for development and
> a forum for users. What do you think?

Worse than having single list for development and users. All my idea was to create ONE place, where all interested parties could meet; having list and forum would break things further.

Well, I need to look at pgfoundry and spy on other projects and think for some time - what kind of communication can make pgoledb more popular.

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Best regards,
 Arvo                            mailto:arvox at hot.ee